High Speed Sync, Part 1… featuring LUMIX GH5 & Panasonic 580 Flash FP Mode
Photo Moment - October 18, 2017
Ever wondered how to turn day into night; to use high speed sync (aka high speed flash, aka FP mode) to get dramatic light photos at high noon in the full sun? Check out part one of this two-part show!
Products Mentioned In Today's Photo Moment
- Panasonic LUMIX DMW-FL580L External Flash — Get Yours Here
- Panasonic LUMIX GH5 — Get Yours Here
So well explained... Thank you.
FP mode - Focal Plane? OK, so I'm a bit behind..... It makes sense because the flash is adapting to the movement of a focal plane shutter.
ahah you are my man! I like this simple 'kitchen language' explanation. That is how I teach my stuff too!!! Cool to see there is st else with super simple and understandable ideas!!!
luv this tutorial. you really taking your time to explain it. step by step
Finally ! Somone who can explain this to me and make sense. Thank you !
Hi, you make great videos about Lumix stuff - I learned quite a bit. I have a hard time to figure out what one menuitem (in my GH5) in the flashmenu is doing. I am talking about the "Auto Exposure compensation" function. May you shed some light on this? And I noticed that I can not enter the menu "firing mode" even if I have a TTL compatible flash mounted. All is about my GH5. Would be greate to get some insight. Thanks. F.
page 155 of the manual: "It can be set only when using an external flash that does not use a battery (supplied with some models of Panasonic digital cameras)." — it's to choose between manual and auto options, which are built into most flashes.
@@photojoseph it is a metz mecablitz 50 AF-1 digital in the oly/pana version.
OK, I'll look into it next week. What flash do you have attached?
@@photojoseph the flash is working as expected. This is not the problem. I am just curiouse why I can not enter the "firing mode" menu...strange. If you have the camera in front of you it would be nice to check if you can enter the menu with a Panasonic flash attached. Thanks for your reply. I really appreciate it. Best. F.
I don't have the camera in front of me and I'm honestly not sure what the "auto exposure compensation" is. But if you can't enable the flash at all then that usually means you're in electronic shutter mode. You can only shoot flash with mechanical shutter. Look up the auto mode in the manual, sorry.
I have seen many videos but you have shown in yet another great way! Learned something useful.
Right on, thanks for saying that!
Is hss works too on gx85 ? (Using godox) And the mode, can you use hss with manual power or just hss with ttl only ?
@@photojoseph yea, i found some user's talk about the issue in https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4183131 . unfortunately i bought this camera 7 days ago and though this setup could perform the HSS ;(
You’ll have to try it. The Godox compatibility chart is BS. It’ll probably work in manual, not TTL, but there’s no guarantee.
can you do fast bursts with the flash on? I have the gx8 and it does not do bursts with flash on :(
Only with Panasonic flashes, sorry
Everything but setting for the camera???
FWIW, HSS works with Godox TT685O on my Lumix G9. Bridging between the HSS and Godox topics.
I love leaf shutters! I wish Panasonic would come out with a m43 version of Fujifilm's X100. https://flic.kr/p/JCp6rC
Hi, I would like to use the unit for shooting video in low light. Manual does not give any info on this. Could you explain. Is it a viable way to use the flash? Bob
No… flash is for still photography only. This unit has a small LED light on it but I wouldn’t buy this for that.
FP mode: Focal Plane. A flash mode used in older cameras. My 1978 Pentax MX film camera had a special socket labled “FP” which I recall was specifically for use with flash bulbs. I never used it, nor did I lean any of the techniques that would have been associated with its use. Perhaps another reader might know more.
Do you now how i can activate the HSS mode in the GH5 for the Godox flash?
Don’t know, don’t own one. That may change soon. Stay tuned.
Does the GH5 have a pc sync cable to connect to a NEO 2 and sync the flash?
It'd be nice to save the money and not buy a transmitter
It'd be nice to save the money and not buy a transmitter
I don’t know what an NEO2 is but yes the GH5 has a PC sync port.
Great explanation of how HSS works.
Personally if I am using HSS it is to not have a darker background but to balance the light of the subject with the background while using a fast aperture. This either means that I put the subject in the shade but the background is in full sun or the subject is backlit by the sun often around sunset. This gives are more natural appearance to the image how your eyes would see the scene.
One thing I feel you should mention is your aperture really needs to be no slower than about f5.6 as it will also have a large effect on the flash light. I would say about every photo that you are likely to be using HSS with you are trying to isolate your subject from the background so a faster shutter is always going to be better too.
The other thing that might be worth mentioning is the light modifiers that come with the flash and how the will change the results.
Personally if I am using HSS it is to not have a darker background but to balance the light of the subject with the background while using a fast aperture. This either means that I put the subject in the shade but the background is in full sun or the subject is backlit by the sun often around sunset. This gives are more natural appearance to the image how your eyes would see the scene.
One thing I feel you should mention is your aperture really needs to be no slower than about f5.6 as it will also have a large effect on the flash light. I would say about every photo that you are likely to be using HSS with you are trying to isolate your subject from the background so a faster shutter is always going to be better too.
The other thing that might be worth mentioning is the light modifiers that come with the flash and how the will change the results.
All good points, thanks for bringing them up!
HELP! When I'm in manual mode / photo (M) mode (on GH5) and i'm focusing, the screen goes bright (basically showing me what 3200 ISO would look like) and blinds me :( ..where do I turn that craziness off? Thanks man!
Yes, thanks, that does makes sense of things. for me tho, I wan't to see what my photo will look even with i'm focusing. So I will keep constant preview ON. This way, rather than seeing a brightened image constantly/too often, I will see my exposure/final image on the display screen, until i press AF/AE or zoom-in. Thanks for the clarification :)
+fmrl productions With constant preview ON, the image may change when you focus. You’re telling the camera to show you what the image looks like with the exposure settings you have, but to focus accurately it needs to “properly” expose the image temporarily when you half-press the shutter or press the AF-ON button. If you set constant preview OFF, then what you see, regardless of the exposure settings, will be that “proper” exposure. Your recorded image will of course reflect your settings, but the preview will be “proper”. Does that make sense?
thanks, but I actually just ended up turning Af/AE LOCK to off (or the box, second option from the bottom). keeping constant preview ON.seems to work (only goes bright when i push the AF/AE LOCK bottom to zoom/check focus/auto-focus in manual. thanks (still wish i could turn it off completelt tho).
+fmrl productions Toggle off “constant preview”. Although you’re seeing the OPPOSITE of what I’d expect to see (usually in manual mode shooting with flash the screen is dark until you focus, then it looks fine). Make sure exposure compensation isn’t cranked to max.
i found out the GH5 can handle 1/320 sec with the Godox HSS flash for panasonic cameras (TT350o i think it's called... at least I didn't see any shutter lag in the image [black bands]) Also I think FP comes from the leica&minolta 'Full Pulse' modes. Could be wrong tho...
+Sully Cortez Oh that is cool. Nice!
oh no no sorry let me clarify, it will go up to 1/4000 sec in HSS mode. But while NOT in HSS mode, you can actually go up to 1/320 sec without any shutter lag (black bands) in the photo. Normally it's 1/250 sec but for some reason with the godox not in HSS, I can go up to 1/320 sec. So it's kinda cool
+Sully Cortez So the Godox, in high speed mode, will only go up to 1/320? That’s disappointing. Then again the cost is very affordable!
What if I don't want to spend $400 on a Panasonic flash and I want to do high speed sync with a cheaper $50 flash from Neewer or Yongnuo? How do I force the GH5 into FP mode? What about with flashes that do not have TTL mode?
My cheap flash has HSS but there is no button to activate it.
Can it be that other cameras sends information about the SS to the flash, which automatically activates the HHS mode?
Too bad I have learned how the flash work AFTER buying and using it 😅
Can it be that other cameras sends information about the SS to the flash, which automatically activates the HHS mode?
Too bad I have learned how the flash work AFTER buying and using it 😅
+Melvin The House Husband The flash has to support high speed sync. The camera detects that the flash is in that mode and then allows a higher shutter speed. If the feature isn’t in the flash then it won’t be possible. I don’t know if the Neewer or Yonguo ones do it or not.
TTL is separate. You can have HSS without TTL, and TTL without HSS.
TTL is separate. You can have HSS without TTL, and TTL without HSS.
@PhotoJoseph Thanks! Nailed it.
Learned something new, thank you! Just tried it with my GH5 and Metz strobe. Perfect!
PhotoJoseph They call it m/ft. Haha I even copied your keynote macro sheet I saw in the pre show. Very handy!
+Marco Corzani Love hearing that! What do they call it on Metz? HSS or FP or something else?
What about using HSS for shooting video (one weak flash per frame)? :)
not needed because video uses the 180 degree rule.
+Serge Broslavsky Haha… I think JoeyL did something like that once woh Profoto lights.
+Serge Broslavsky haha it’s been done
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