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There isn’t much to discuss. I’ve made my opinion known to the powers that be.

Ben Fox got some footage from Photokina https://youtu.be/KT6UvzEGeLE

PhotoJoseph - The three axis on the S series. I think it would be awesome if you could flip it out / around like you can on a regular GH5 / G9 type flip screen, but it looks like it tilts at some very odd angles and then to the right, but not to the left. I'd love someone to do a video on just the 3 axis screen.

When you say “crazy version”, do you mean the fully articulating screen that’s on the GH series today? The 3-axis one that is being touted for the S series is a different type. It’s interesting to see the polarization on this online. Personally I love the GH screen. Most seem to agree, but others are quite vocal that they like the 3-axis type better.

As far as I know that’s a unique issue with that lens. Supposedly very hard to repair (no idea why).

Color profiles will likely be the same. We’ve seen the same ones on nearly every LUMIX made. As for the DR, sensor size isn’t relevant here so we can assume as good of DR as the G series but can hope for even better.

I agree with everything you’ve said except the fully articulating screen. I’m a pro, use my GH cameras daily and don’t vlog (well, rarely). I’ve never broken an articulating screen; they tend to just fold back / move when bumped. But I do love it for studio work. Being able to face the LCD forward while adjusting the set is huge for me.

The XQD is the only card system(it IS a system) that is pro-grade, much more reliable than SD or CF. It is also faster allowing for higher speed buffer clearing. It is a very good and preferred choice on a pro-camera. The cost is higher but its Mean Time Between Failure is far far better than other systems. This indicated Panasonic is serious about the pro market. The tilt screen instead of flip out screen is another nod to pros who prefer to have less fragile cameras. Those who want video selfies for youtube are actually well served now and going full frame is a waste of money. They, and all pro oriented camera makers, are not designing cameras for that have all possible features but are focusing on the ones that the targetted market prefers. There are already lots of high-performance general purpose cameras and all under $3000. I would be less willing to trust a flip out screen, it does not belong on a tool that needs above all else, reliable.

LUMIX cameras have always had the SD form factor, and XQD is close to that. They still want to be as small as possible. Also XQD can be (theoretically) updated to CFexpress, which is faster yet again: https://photojoseph.com/tips/2018/9/9/benefits-xqd-memory

Definitely am subbed for awhile! I've never been able to watch your vids live though lol. To put the math simply, MFT is about half from FF. 25mm MFT = FOV of 50mmFF. Because of that field of view, you divide the focal length to the diameter of the aperture. Hope this helps some!

I’m going to do a show on this topic soon. Be sure you’re subbed so you know when it is. (And your math, while possibly correct, is confusing me so I’m a avoiding answering!) 😁

If you search YouTube for "switch to mft" you will see quite a few videos where people say that weight is a factor for them to switch but there are also other reasons. Over the past 10 years the sales of DSLR-like cameras has tanked because cell phone cameras are good enough for most people. To get people interested again companies like Panasonic are giving away cameras like the G7 at near cost. It is like when you buy an ink-jet printer for peanuts but then they make money selling you ink cartridges. Panasonic is getting people interested in a $500 camera and then they make money selling lenses and when people get the camera bug and upgrade to more expensive gear. There are times when FF is worth it and even medium format but many photographers can do well with smaller sensors. Some things are hard to predict, especially the future. We can wait and see. :-)

WarmWeatherGuy Weight is pretty small factor when most people consider what camera they are choosing. Even if the differences aren’t as easy to tell, there are things you simply can’t do on a M43 camera that you can on a FF and not the other way around. Don’t try to fool yourself into thinking that the differences aren’t there. M43 will never elapse APS-C or FF cameras.

When it comes to weight MFT is superior. You are right that it is not superior for many applications. Yet most of the time you can't tell the difference. https://youtu.be/OGn3yPl59ZM?t=8m56s

WarmWeatherGuy I’m a M43 shooter and lover but you’re wrong lol. M43 is inferior and also has a lower ceiling in terms of performance and we are already pretty close to it. M43 is cool but it’s technically inferior

Yeah it won't be possible to adapt either way, in any meaningful sense. Connectors are also placed differently, and you want focus and aperture control in an adapter.

@@photojoseph I did chuckle when I saw it come up in your list and wondered whether I'd prompted it. Take care and thanks again.

Hehe yeah sorry, I have been deflecting those questions since the rumors started. I put that in the FAQ at the end because you asked it though 😁

The main reason actually is because it’s not as easy to break and it’s more practical in most professional situations. The only people who really use articulated screens are YouTubers lol

The main reason actually is because it’s not as easy to break and it’s more practical in most professional situations. The only people who really use articulated screens are YouTubers lol

Its tragic not to have the fully articulated screen and a deal breaker for me ,,,have a word with them photo J

yes i prefer tilting too, more discrete better on gimbals .. articulating are for selfie folks ;)

I actually prefer the tilts - they are more practical for me in my use situations - but to each their own.

Don’t know yet

Dieter Knüttel True. So far the rumors were accurate, but there’s still a long way to go before price is settled. Looking forward to finding out more.

oldschoolwarrior
But the Z6 and the EOS-R are below 3.000.
But it was also only a rumor. We will see how much they charge in the end.

I read before the announcement that the 24MP S will be around $3000, which makes sense because that’s what the Sony is right now.

PhotoJoseph
Rumors said the Pro version will be around 4.000 $ and the entry level camera around 2.000 $.

Not yet announced

No. This should not be physically possible. Remember, the lens size of micro four thirds is considerably smaller. Which means that the light projected on the sensor would not cover the entire sensor. The only way to do it would be to use a crop of the full frame sensor, which while not impossible, I don’t see as very likely. That would reduce the 4K quality to that of the EOS-R and you’ve seen how well received that was :-)

Excited because it will have a filter thread and can be used as a general purpose lens too!

but I also heard that the 3 way LCD actually tilts the other way , kind of a bummer but no deal breaker ... also looking into the BMPCC 4K but then again the sensor size on the S1 means I wont have to spend too much to go wide angle and worry much about ISO .......

yeah it sounds good so far but im just afraid of the price, but i guess it gives me more time to save up

Yak Almighty as a G7 owner , i would gladly switch to the new S1

As a Nikon FF shooter I have been using XQD for 3 years. Good choice and it makes some of using other brands consider Panasonic for the first time, it is the only pro-grade card system available, designed from scratch to answer the problems of the consumer grade unreliable SD cards and sockets.

😂😂😂

Dieter Knüttel sweet

PhotoJoseph sigma has announced a EF-L-Mount adapter

That is discussed in the Q&A at the end. Nothing announced but some Leica ones already available, from what it seems.

Okay that I agree with (the assumptions part)

lol you know there's a difference between DSLR and DSLM right? xD

Gatman lol Canon made the first FF 4K60 DSLR years ago with the 1DX MII

Also, companies do not KNOW what others are doing. Assume, yes. Know? No. It’s not like trade secrets are open secrets between competitors.

Or maybe Canikon was responding to Panasonic assumptions, but managed to release first? 🤔

PhotoJoseph  I have been using XQD for 3 years, definitely the pro's choice, very solid, rugged, fast and reliable. Sony reports, as one of the developers and makers, that of the millions sold only 1 single card has failed. Sony does not put it into the consumer grade cameras because of cost(a7III and a9 etc) but us it in their high even pro gear for video production and control systems, that cost 10-15 times as much. From these features it appears Panasonic is serious about competing in the pro market as the weather sealing, flange size, XQD, and service network. This latter one is important and will have a lot of people migrate from Sony due to poor support and the worst part of their service policies is their dropping parts availability soon after a model goes out of production. Nikon and Canon supply parts for years. For example a a7, the original only 3.5 years old is no longer supported, if it fails, it is a door stop. That is something Panasonic was good about in the field I was in, pro audio. They competed directly with Sony for example with DAT digital 2 track recorders and Panasonic did not change models often and parts and service(I had a major studio plus own the largest pro audio service center in the US) was available for years. Sony churned the market, replacing models every 12-15 months and dropping parts so a used Sony had no resale value. We were the largest service center for all digital tape decks (Sony, Tascam, Panasonic, Studer, Fostex, Alesis) and every studio in the world had at least one workhorse SV3700 or SV3800 Panasonic because they just worked could be repaired. Due to that history, I am very interested in the S1R and will be following news as it fleshes out.

Oh I see now; it is two different slots. Thanks.

Also is that the same as the Z?

Oh ok so the slots are backwards compatible? Isn’t the XQD a different size?

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It’s only a couple of hours earlier than normal… but yeah, yesterday was a LONG day.

But also good on you to be one of the first people with a video on this. 3am is a bit crazy though. Get some sleep man xD

I'M FIRED UP ABOUT ALL THIS TECH!! NO ONE CAN STHAP ME!!! 😤😤😤

You’re in a mood aren’t you? I was watching that, taking notes and it was 3am. Be nice. Sheesh. And if that’s what they said, thank you for clarifying.

These things happen :D

Yep, I had the numbers swapped. It gets corrected later. Don’t know how I made that mistake. So annoying. 😡

I was thinking the same :D

Never heard of such thing, I guess it is a thing after all. But it's not a well-established one however. No current MFT lens does this.

I've heard people refering to the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 as having multiple prime lenses in one lens. That's because the optical quality and sensitivity at each focal length is so impressive, it rivals primes. The all-in-one concept of course refers to the zoomlens being more convenient than having multiple lenses you'd have to swap.

There is a zoom lens Leica make it is a 16-18-21mm lens. How likely do you think it is that in a system that has never had a zoom faster than 2.8 they are making a 1.7 zoom. Didn't you think it was interesting they were saying "it's like 5 primes in 1", have you ever heard a lens described that way? why wouldn't they say "its like 16 primes in 1"? why don't they describe the 2.8 as "24 primes in 1"?

It’s a proper zoom lens. The description of being “like five primes” is odd, I agree. All they are saying is that it’s designed with the quality of a prime lens. I don’t write this stuff… don’t shoot the messenger :-)

What zoom lens do you know of that zooms in steps rather than being adjustable through the entire range??! Because what you're describing sounds like madness.

I'm 99.99% sure you can use it at 13 or 17mm as you can with say the 12-35mm f/2.8 OIS. Because why on earth would you not?

I have a feeling that the 10-25mm is not going to cover the entire range it really will be like haveing 5 prime lenses which you change by turning the zoom ring. So what I'm saying is that it could be that you can't hit 17mm focal length or 13mm.

You should've been 'non-S-mount lenses' rather than 'non-Nikon VR lenses', you're right.
Which makes sense, most old Panasonic lenses aren't Dual IS(2) compatible. It also forces people to buy new lenses if that's what they want, so partly deliberately.

Still brings home the same point though that there's probably hybrid IS going on.

The 5 axis IS is for S lenses and F lenses will be 3 axis regardless of whether it is a VR or not

Again, the small form factor is what I love.