You can drag and drop files into the Folder hierarchy in the Library Tool Tab, this will actually relocate them physically on the HD. But you have to build the folder hierarchy yourself.
C1 still seems to lack a comfortable “Relocate Originals” action like Aperture, where you can precisely choose which folder structure will be set up before the files are moved.
I just went through the exercise of moving a full directory structure from one drive to another external drive similar to “relocate originals” using the following steps. 1. Exit Capture One. 2. Copy directory structure in Finder from Drive 1. 3. Past directory structure using Finder onto Drive 2. 4. Reload Capture One. 5. In Library>Folder, point to the off-line parent directory on Drive 1. 5. Right click and select Locate. 6. Point to parent directory on Drive 2. 7. Select Open and poof, the full directory structure for the referenced files in Capture One has been hooked-up with the directory structure on Drive 2.
Thanks very much, Tom. That sorted me out completely, both in moving the files and getting the catalogue to correspond, but also in showing me another part of C1.
I think it very much depends on where you come from. If you come from Aperture, like I do, you may come to the conclusion: barely (good).
If you come from something else, the shortcomings of C1 in the area of DAM amount to much less.
I have migrated fully to C1 exactly a year ago and it still lacks a lot of small things, that sum up to a lot less functionality and ease of use:
1. Performance - it’s just not as snappy as Aperture in every way, before you click on “All images” your hands will start to shake
2. Keywords - they tried to improve it with the newest version, but its buggy as hell and still a joke
3. Database queries - a joke, similar to Lightroom (you can not put smart albums where you want them, you can’t restrict a source for your smart album, you can’t just click on a group and expect to see all assets below, you can’t search for specific adjustments, you can’t this, you can’t that….)
4. Metadata overlays - lacks almost any kind of useful metadata overlaying for browsing your pictures. Aperture had this part nailed down since V 1.0
BUT - and this is a big ass “but” - the image quality and scope of adjustments of C1 makes up for ALL of this, believe it or not. I am STILL after 12 months rediscovering some of my old images and enhance them to new levels with C1, and I’m talking about very old pictures from camera bodies which I do not own anymore, like my Canon 300D. It just blows your mind if you start to learn the depths of it. The color grading alone is the best there is out there.
Have you tried their management software? Media Pro I think it is???? I see in their blog they’re updating it and had a recent beta test group that closed.
Lightroom was terribly slow for me. I have 400,000 photos plus. It did great at keeping track of files and keyboarding but in their layout, it’s a giant mess of jumbled images. Terrible at showing you your organized photos in their catalog.
Apple Photos is actually really good (right now) with their keywords and smart albums. That’s huge for me!!!! But I don’t like being stuck in their structure and not being able to move assets around. They want too much control to keep it under control.
I’ll try editing some old and new photos with C1 today. Image quality was GREAT with Lightroom but you HAD to edit to get there. Out of the gate, Lightroom images looked flat, dull or just ugly.
There was not a lot of development for Media Pro recently, so I did not want to waste my time with it.
I’m afraid to say that the reason that Apples Photos is so fast may be their control of your assets. I don’t know why people always want to waste their time with setting up folders in the finder for their images. I used Aperture in Managed Mode for 10 years, never lost a single image and - even more impressive - moved all of this (30k files) into a referenced structure prior to migrating to C1 within 20 (!) minutes. That’s right, Aperture moved my 10 year old library into a folder structure within 20 minutes after everybody told me in the forums for 10 years how dangerous the managed approach is and that they would never trust their images to an application and that they want full control at all time blablabla. I laughed my ass off for the many hours these people wasted in 10 years. If there is one thing Apples engineers can do, it is to code. Look at how slow C1 and LR are compared to Aperture, says it all.
If you won’t be blown away by the C1 image adjustments compared to LR, you are doing it wrong. I can guarantee you that.
Re: 1) Performance - some areas suffer performance issues like selecting another album, project, smart album and then waiting for it to load and display the thumbnails. image adjustment feedback is very responsive in my experience.
Re: 2) Keywords - I used Media Pro years ago and the Keywords in CO work similarly. What I find difficult is removing a keyword from multiple images at once. Add one to multiple images is very easy, as is copying and pasting keywords from one source to one or more target images.
Re: 3) Database queries - if you use Projects instead of Folders, and place Smart Albums inside them, the smart album searches are restricted to what is inside that Project. Also, if you click on the Project, it will should you the thumbnails for all of the images inside that Project (all albums, folders, etc). Not a perfect solution and not as flexible as Aperture, but it does offer you some of the capability you seek.
Re: 4) Metadata overlays - I think in the Library tab, Filter tool works quite well. How you make it work differs significantly from Aperture, but closely resembles LR.
You can drag and drop files into the Folder hierarchy in the Library Tool Tab, this will actually relocate them physically on the HD. But you have to build the folder hierarchy yourself.
C1 still seems to lack a comfortable “Relocate Originals” action like Aperture, where you can precisely choose which folder structure will be set up before the files are moved.
I just went through the exercise of moving a full directory structure from one drive to another external drive similar to “relocate originals” using the following steps. 1. Exit Capture One. 2. Copy directory structure in Finder from Drive 1. 3. Past directory structure using Finder onto Drive 2. 4. Reload Capture One. 5. In Library>Folder, point to the off-line parent directory on Drive 1. 5. Right click and select Locate. 6. Point to parent directory on Drive 2. 7. Select Open and poof, the full directory structure for the referenced files in Capture One has been hooked-up with the directory structure on Drive 2.
Tom Carroll
www.tomcarrollphotography.com
Thanks very much, Tom. That sorted me out completely, both in moving the files and getting the catalogue to correspond, but also in showing me another part of C1.
Chris
~~~>--} threeshoes photography
Are you guys finding C1 makes a good DAM (digital assets manager)?
Milo
www.milosmetal.com
I think it very much depends on where you come from. If you come from Aperture, like I do, you may come to the conclusion: barely (good).
If you come from something else, the shortcomings of C1 in the area of DAM amount to much less.
I have migrated fully to C1 exactly a year ago and it still lacks a lot of small things, that sum up to a lot less functionality and ease of use:
1. Performance - it’s just not as snappy as Aperture in every way, before you click on “All images” your hands will start to shake
2. Keywords - they tried to improve it with the newest version, but its buggy as hell and still a joke
3. Database queries - a joke, similar to Lightroom (you can not put smart albums where you want them, you can’t restrict a source for your smart album, you can’t just click on a group and expect to see all assets below, you can’t search for specific adjustments, you can’t this, you can’t that….)
4. Metadata overlays - lacks almost any kind of useful metadata overlaying for browsing your pictures. Aperture had this part nailed down since V 1.0
BUT - and this is a big ass “but” - the image quality and scope of adjustments of C1 makes up for ALL of this, believe it or not. I am STILL after 12 months rediscovering some of my old images and enhance them to new levels with C1, and I’m talking about very old pictures from camera bodies which I do not own anymore, like my Canon 300D. It just blows your mind if you start to learn the depths of it. The color grading alone is the best there is out there.
Have you tried their management software? Media Pro I think it is???? I see in their blog they’re updating it and had a recent beta test group that closed.
Lightroom was terribly slow for me. I have 400,000 photos plus. It did great at keeping track of files and keyboarding but in their layout, it’s a giant mess of jumbled images. Terrible at showing you your organized photos in their catalog.
Apple Photos is actually really good (right now) with their keywords and smart albums. That’s huge for me!!!! But I don’t like being stuck in their structure and not being able to move assets around. They want too much control to keep it under control.
I’ll try editing some old and new photos with C1 today. Image quality was GREAT with Lightroom but you HAD to edit to get there. Out of the gate, Lightroom images looked flat, dull or just ugly.
Milo
www.milosmetal.com
There was not a lot of development for Media Pro recently, so I did not want to waste my time with it.
I’m afraid to say that the reason that Apples Photos is so fast may be their control of your assets. I don’t know why people always want to waste their time with setting up folders in the finder for their images. I used Aperture in Managed Mode for 10 years, never lost a single image and - even more impressive - moved all of this (30k files) into a referenced structure prior to migrating to C1 within 20 (!) minutes. That’s right, Aperture moved my 10 year old library into a folder structure within 20 minutes after everybody told me in the forums for 10 years how dangerous the managed approach is and that they would never trust their images to an application and that they want full control at all time blablabla. I laughed my ass off for the many hours these people wasted in 10 years. If there is one thing Apples engineers can do, it is to code. Look at how slow C1 and LR are compared to Aperture, says it all.
If you won’t be blown away by the C1 image adjustments compared to LR, you are doing it wrong. I can guarantee you that.
Re: 1) Performance - some areas suffer performance issues like selecting another album, project, smart album and then waiting for it to load and display the thumbnails. image adjustment feedback is very responsive in my experience.
Re: 2) Keywords - I used Media Pro years ago and the Keywords in CO work similarly. What I find difficult is removing a keyword from multiple images at once. Add one to multiple images is very easy, as is copying and pasting keywords from one source to one or more target images.
Re: 3) Database queries - if you use Projects instead of Folders, and place Smart Albums inside them, the smart album searches are restricted to what is inside that Project. Also, if you click on the Project, it will should you the thumbnails for all of the images inside that Project (all albums, folders, etc). Not a perfect solution and not as flexible as Aperture, but it does offer you some of the capability you seek.
Re: 4) Metadata overlays - I think in the Library tab, Filter tool works quite well. How you make it work differs significantly from Aperture, but closely resembles LR.
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I find it odd that I cannot easily delete a group of images in the browser. Has anyone else found out how to do it?
For instance, I select several images in the browser and press Delete, but only one (with the heavier selection outline) disappears …
Chris
~~~>--} threeshoes photography
Make sure you have the icon selected to apply changes to all selected variants.
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